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	<title>Comments on: Google to launch UK phone network</title>
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		<title>By: David Blanar</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2007/google-to-launch-uk-phone-network/#comment-28489</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blanar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you're looking for a deeper answer than "Because they can"?  But, sounds like it's a moot point anyway, as Google has rubbished the rumours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you&#8217;re looking for a deeper answer than &#8220;Because they can&#8221;?  But, sounds like it&#8217;s a moot point anyway, as Google has rubbished the rumours.</p>
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		<title>By: Nerd Meridian :: Real Platforms Come to Web 2.0</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2007/google-to-launch-uk-phone-network/#comment-27449</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerd Meridian :: Real Platforms Come to Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carriers as mobile internet application platforms.  I&#8217;ve written about some of this before.  I&#8217;m a big believer in the potential for carriers to move in a platform direction, rather than remaining so focused on controlling the handset UE and the associated revenue streams.  There are compelling services carriers can offer to the next generation of mobile web applications (and we&#8217;re not just talking about better J2ME APIs and HTTP headers), if they would just get off the pot and start doing some of this stuff.  Parlay/X, SDP, IMS and the rest have got them churning on their own weight rather than focusing on the principles of real platform ecosystems.  There are platform services that developers will pay to access, and we could figure out exactly how much if someone would do some experimentation and give it a shot in an incremental way.  Full openness may not be the right strategy, but without market testing some initial examples the carriers have no choice but to keep doing what they&#8217;re doing.  &#8220;More of the same&#8221; is never a good move for a pressured segment.  I&#8217;ve always thought that the MVNO space is where we might see more of this type of thing, and who knows, maybe this is what Google has in mind.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carriers as mobile internet application platforms.  I&#8217;ve written about some of this before.  I&#8217;m a big believer in the potential for carriers to move in a platform direction, rather than remaining so focused on controlling the handset UE and the associated revenue streams.  There are compelling services carriers can offer to the next generation of mobile web applications (and we&#8217;re not just talking about better J2ME APIs and HTTP headers), if they would just get off the pot and start doing some of this stuff.  Parlay/X, SDP, IMS and the rest have got them churning on their own weight rather than focusing on the principles of real platform ecosystems.  There are platform services that developers will pay to access, and we could figure out exactly how much if someone would do some experimentation and give it a shot in an incremental way.  Full openness may not be the right strategy, but without market testing some initial examples the carriers have no choice but to keep doing what they&#8217;re doing.  &#8220;More of the same&#8221; is never a good move for a pressured segment.  I&#8217;ve always thought that the MVNO space is where we might see more of this type of thing, and who knows, maybe this is what Google has in mind.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2007/google-to-launch-uk-phone-network/#comment-27406</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 11:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But my point is that checking the football scores on the network's homepage isn't enough for Google; they want us to be using GCalendar to run our lives, GMail to communicate, GReader to get news, all on our phone. People aren't at the moment because the apps aren't preloaded, and it costs too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But my point is that checking the football scores on the network&#8217;s homepage isn&#8217;t enough for Google; they want us to be using GCalendar to run our lives, GMail to communicate, GReader to get news, all on our phone. People aren&#8217;t at the moment because the apps aren&#8217;t preloaded, and it costs too much.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blanar</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2007/google-to-launch-uk-phone-network/#comment-27392</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blanar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Forrester's latest research has mobile internet penetration at 38% of the market, growing each quarter.  This is significant, considering - statistically - overall UK mobile phone takeup is running greater than 100%, meaning people (lots of people) have multiple phones.

The other factor at play here is the reason voice minutes are so cheap for operators liks 3 is they can afford to dump them because of excess (read: unusued) 3G capacity.  It is a dangerous game; if punters start using 3G services, it will directly impact the number of voice minutes available.  3G services vs. cheap voice minutes: they can't have both.

Google's play here could be prescient if it sees the mobile handset as simply another OS on which it can deliver its services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Forrester&#8217;s latest research has mobile internet penetration at 38% of the market, growing each quarter.  This is significant, considering - statistically - overall UK mobile phone takeup is running greater than 100%, meaning people (lots of people) have multiple phones.</p>
<p>The other factor at play here is the reason voice minutes are so cheap for operators liks 3 is they can afford to dump them because of excess (read: unusued) 3G capacity.  It is a dangerous game; if punters start using 3G services, it will directly impact the number of voice minutes available.  3G services vs. cheap voice minutes: they can&#8217;t have both.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s play here could be prescient if it sees the mobile handset as simply another OS on which it can deliver its services.</p>
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		<title>By: fatmanokan</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2007/google-to-launch-uk-phone-network/#comment-27362</link>
		<dc:creator>fatmanokan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU FORYOUR HELP . I WANT TO USE GTALK ON MOBILE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE , I WILL BE GLAD REALLY .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU FORYOUR HELP . I WANT TO USE GTALK ON MOBILE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE , I WILL BE GLAD REALLY .<br />
WITH MY BEST WISHES.</p>
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