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	<title>Comments on: Sun&#8217;s Phipps: open source Java is &#8220;an ongoing process&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2006/suns-phipps-open-source-java-is-ongoing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably right. Why would Microsoft fight for Java as an interoperable platform anyway? With Vista they&#039;ll want to be pushing the new .NET - .NET 3.0 or WinFX or whatever it&#039;s called now, so I guess you&#039;re right they won&#039;t want built-in competition in the form of Java.

And the implementation of Java that was in XP originally was Microsoft&#039;s JVM, not a Sun offering. It was generally considered to be rubbish and insecure compared to Sun&#039;s JVM, and it essentially is dead technology now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right. Why would Microsoft fight for Java as an interoperable platform anyway? With Vista they&#8217;ll want to be pushing the new .NET &#8211; .NET 3.0 or WinFX or whatever it&#8217;s called now, so I guess you&#8217;re right they won&#8217;t want built-in competition in the form of Java.</p>
<p>And the implementation of Java that was in XP originally was Microsoft&#8217;s JVM, not a Sun offering. It was generally considered to be rubbish and insecure compared to Sun&#8217;s JVM, and it essentially is dead technology now.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hubick</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2006/suns-phipps-open-source-java-is-ongoing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hubick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Java becomes available on WIndows, Mac, and Linux - that makes it pretty much a universal platform.  Universal means you don&#039;t need Windows.  The realization that Java was more than spinny banner ads for the web browser, and a real platform threat, is exactly what caused them to attempt to co-op Java the last time, leading to the legal embroilment - and exactly why Microsoft would fight to the death *not* to include Open Source Java with Windows today.  Never gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Java becomes available on WIndows, Mac, and Linux &#8211; that makes it pretty much a universal platform.  Universal means you don&#8217;t need Windows.  The realization that Java was more than spinny banner ads for the web browser, and a real platform threat, is exactly what caused them to attempt to co-op Java the last time, leading to the legal embroilment &#8211; and exactly why Microsoft would fight to the death *not* to include Open Source Java with Windows today.  Never gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter&#8217;s Web Development Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open source Java is an &#8220;ongoing process&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://gizbuzz.co.uk/2006/suns-phipps-open-source-java-is-ongoing-process/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter&#8217;s Web Development Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open source Java is an &#8220;ongoing process&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to Simon Phipps, anyway. Read my full post here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to Simon Phipps, anyway. Read my full post here. [...]</p>
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